3/1/2006 - Anonymous writes:
I used to work for Mentoring of America/ John Beck for Years. I quit because so many people have been ripped off by both companies. Fist off if you are thinking about investing in real estate don't invest in program like these. You are promised to make you money back in 30 days and that is not going to happen if you are buying land ar 2,000 with a profit margin of 200-500 bucks per property! If you invested 2k-15k which they charge even if you sell property on the high end it will take well over 20 property flips even to get back 10k! If you ever try to get your money back it is going to be impossible unless you seek leagal action! Also land banc property is a joke they will promise doubling your money and if you research your avenues to resell you will find out these properties are the worst out there and you can't sell them! so now not only zare you 10k in the hole with the course you now invested maybe 2k in some property that you can't sell and now are stuck paying taxes on it. My advise is to not mess around with this program!!!!!! And that is from someone that worked there. If you have complaints [email protected], these next two run the land [email protected],[email protected] are all scum bags!
2/25/2006 - Renee writes:
This message is written in regards to another unfortunate customer not receiving the stated product after sending in the amount of $54.45 including shipping and handling charges. Each time I tried to contact them by phone there was no connection. It is a shame to con millions of Americans out of their hard earned money. Most infomercials are legititmate so I never dreamed that this particular one would be a scam. Sincerely yours, Renee
2/25/2006 - Lavonne writes:
I was supposed to receive the package on January 27th, which was a RUSH ORDER which was supposed to be recieved within 5-7 days. I have never received the package. I have tried to call them over the phone and had no success. I was also supposed to receive complimentary gifts for ordering this product, which I never recieved.
2/22/2006 - Robert writes:
I order this system 5 weeks ago have not received as of 02-22-06.it was suppose to be here 02-20- 06.know I can not reach any one to cancel
2/20/2006 - Robert writes:
I saw the comercial on t v sunday 2-19-06, took the no. and called it. I got an automated recording which asked the name of the program I wanted then asked for my credit card no.& personal information. It repeated all the info. but sounded like the address was wrong. when I told it that, it just went on to other items it wanted to sell me. I kept repeating that the address was wrong but it just kept sailing through all the items as though I was saying yes. It gave me the cust. service no. I waited till monday and called to explain but would be put on hold, then it gave a busy signal followed by 2 rings, then it hung up. this happened 14 times before I gave up. so I clicked on the site I was given and got you. I feel I got scammed.
2/20/2006 - Carl writes:
I bought the John Beck Free & Clear system on Feb 3, 2006. I saw the informercial and was sucked into its presentation. Very persuasive I must say. I received the CDs and booklets on Feb. 9, 2006. Unfortunately, I didn't research Mr. Beck before I purchased the kit. I noticed this page and read both sides of consumer dealings with Mr. Beck. After reading, I decided to call for RA#. I called two phone numbers listed on the documents inside, but got no answer - even after being on hold for more than 15 minutes. I also wrote 2 emails requesting a return uthorization - no response. On Feb. 20, 2006, I decided to call the numbers again to get someone to give me a RA# for this kit. Lo and Behold! Someone one answered on the first phone # I dialed. I spoke to a young lady, who was very pleasant, and told her that I don't know where to begin with in the kit. She took my name and number and was going to have someone return my call. Well, about 5 minutes later, Mr. Scott Cook called me. I told Mr. Cook that same thing, that I don't know where to begin with this kit. Mr. Cook said that the company was looking for persons with "motivation and drive" to begin their company. And I would be connected with his boss, who would get me started IF I PASSED THE INTERVIEW. Now what is that??? Mr. Cook further explained that I would have to invest $10,000 into this business if I wanted it to be successful. He mentioned a scholarship to assist me. But that was about $1200. What is that??? When I told Mr. Cook that I didn't have that much money to put out, he basically changed his tone and rushed me off the phone, stating " Well, when you get that investment capital, call me back with a followup and we will get you going." Isn't that cute??? Mr. Cook was very aloof when I asked about the kit in the meantime. I asked could I still use them, and his response was "if you know what you are doing, yes. If not, you can get into trouble." After our conversation, I called another number from the invoice in an attempt to get a RA - their phone system hung up with a fast busy signal TWICE. I didn't want to believe that the John Beck company was not on the level, but apparently it is. To any potential real estate investors DO NOT USE JOH BECK'S FREE & CLEAR. Your investment of $70 or so to get it just won't get you started as the infomercial leads you to believe. I am disappointed and very disatisfied with this product. Now, how can I get my money back? Only God knows........
2/16/2006 - Jennifer writes:
I like many other unfortunate souls have fallen victim to John Beck's free and clear real estate program. I saw the commercial and it looked simple. Finally there was something I could do in my little bit of spare time when I wasn't working or taking care of my elderly mother. I was told I had 3 days to change my mind and after the transaction and I contacted them the next day. I was under the impression that I could finance these types of tax liens, but was informed that they needed to be paid for up front. I simply did not have the capital to do this type of work. My financial situation to afford anything like this and simply was acting on my right as a consumer to cancel within my 3 day period. My credit card company would not work in my favor until John Beck's people agreed to refund back my money. Total charges on my card were in the tune of $10, 499.00 and they are still holding my money as we speak. They are toying with me and constantly telling me "sorry, well you chose to do this and we move forward with things here. There is just no way that you are getting your money back and I don't think that you have a good enough reason to deserve a refund." Who are these people to say that I do not have a good enough reason? I simply changed my mind. I did not use the service or sign anything. There major argument now is that they have to review the tape and see if the customer service representative did in fact say "you have 3 days to cancel". Jarred called me the day before yesterday and said that he had reviewed the tape and would offer me a partial refund. Yesterday Jarred, I and the credit card company were on a three way call and he began lying through his teeth saying that he never said that he had reviewed the tape and said that he made very clear to me the refund policy. These people are crooks! All they said to me was that I could cancel this within three days. I discussed it with my family and we decided that this was not for us. It was a lot more work than it was made out to be. This company is going down. I need to rally people together to get a class action suit against them. I said to him, "you have got to be out of your mind. I need my money and I do not want your service, please refund back my money" Who do these people think they are? He kept going around circles saying all kinds of crazy things about they are not going to give it back. Contact me with the details of your case.
2/10/2006 - Margaret writes:
I purchased the John Beck programs. First the $39.95 program and all it was just a bunch of books with information I colud have got out of the news paper myself.Then they called me with this big offer saying I would be sorry if I didn't get in on the ground floor.I would be lossing a lot of money.I could make my $5,000 back to pay my credit card off before it was due. Well I was not working aat the time and was stupid enough to think maybe it was realy true.I went all out leased the credit card sight and all. That was in 2003.I will never get my credit card paid off,and I still have seven more months of $70.00 a month for the credit card lease sight.That I ave up on a long time ago.I was so ashamed that I was so stupid to take that chance so long ago to this day my familey still does not know. I do know one thing Just because you see their name every where and it seems realy big do not trust any one.I know I never will again.I sure hope I can help just one person( with the same dream I had )save their money and their time.It cost me around $8000.00
2/6/2006 - Judith writes:
This program is a FRAUD!!!!! I purchased this program in early 2004 thinking that I would have some money by now, however, after I ordered the program I kept getting calls to purchase the mentoring program which back then was $1,150.00. I told them I owuld hink about it. One week later my bank acount was charged $1,150.00 and I recieved some mentoring papers to sign. I disputed and all hell broke loose. I sent the papers back unsigned and they refused them and returned them to me. So I kept all their programs and closed my account, told the bank that I am not paying the money because I did not have that money in my account and I did not authorize it. After about six months my bank put it to rest stating they did an investigation on them and found out that t his is something they often do. Please DO NOT PURCHASE THIS PROGRAM!!! Try researching before you attemp any info-mercial products they are always looking and sounding better than they are.
2/1/2006 - Donna writes:
I ordered this program on my VISA credit card, and they took $188.29 when all they should have taken was $54.45. This is for the product which was $39.95 and shipping and handling $14.50. I called this number(1-818-464-1650) and talked with a lady one time (January 17, 06) and I was to get my money back in seven days. I'm still waiting and I can't get through. They give you this e-mail address:[email protected] they don't answer the e-mail, they called on my cell phone, but they never leave a message. They can take this program and shove it, they take your money in one day, you have to waith forever to get it back. I'm better off never to have believed that this was LEGIT. If it's not a scam, why don't they give me what they took from me.
1/31/2006 - Shurland writes:
we watch john beck infomercial on tv. we purchase as inform, for $35.00 we paid by credit card, the took 190.00 someone called itold them to cancle and refund my money ihave not heard from them
1/28/2006 - Paul writes:
I have had it up to hear with John Beck!! This man is a scam and a con artist. Trying to get people's money. His Free and Clear Real Estate system swindled me out of over 5000.00. I gave an honest effort, and tried to recoup my costs, but have yet to see a dime. John should be locked up immediately where he should rot out his remaining days!! John Beck is one old motherfucker who is headed straight to hell for what he has done!! Rot in hell forever John Beck!!
1/27/2006 - Shannon writes:
I live in Louisiana, my sister in law ordered the books from John Beck and asked if I would be interested in working together on this investment. With always wanting to get into realestate and not really knowing how I said yes. We received a call promising the moon and stars, they said our investment would be $9000.00, well of course I had doubts, but being in the hurricane area I thought it would be a good idea. I told them there was no way we could afford this. So they told us about "OPM's" Other peoples money, to get as many credit cards as possible. So thats what we did; after getting the first payment to them, and calling to make the second payment we were told that $4300 would be charged for the Las Vegas seminar, I told them repeatedly that I was not paying for this seminar. Then they back peddled and said the entire amount was not for the seminar (that we would actually have to fund all expenses for). They charged my credit card $4300, and of course it stated "John Beck Seminar", after 3 weeks of complaining we are awaiting a refund. I have voiced my complaints to anyone that would listened, everything they say is a complete LIE. Their coaching sessions consist of the "Coach" giving you a list of websites to research (which are FREE websites). We started in Novemeber 2005, we recieved our "Coaching call last night 1/27/06, and was informed it was our last. What a joke, they say the system is 100% service guaranteed. Well I have made not a dime, paid TWO credit card payments that we can't afford, and they still keep peddeling this joke of a company. Any one reading this DO NOT EVEN TALK TO ANYONE FROM JOHN BECK ANYTHING. If you have money you want to invest, do not do it there, you might as well stand on a street corner and give it away.
1/26/2006 - Sonya writes:
I called the toll free number and the automation throughout the duration of the call was just killing me. This is poor customer service, not one time was I able to speak to a representative and on top of all that they charged my account and I hung up the phone before completing any transactions. Their catch is to get all of your information up front, and regardless of whether you hang up or not, they'll charge your account and you haven't even finished the process.
1/19/2006 - Todd writes:
I keep getting phone calls from John Becks Real Estate asking me to buy their mentoring program. I keep telling them that I have no interest and not to call me anymore. They keep calling and they are rude. I have told them to take me off of their call list and they tell me that they do not have a call list. I have told them not to call me ever again and they keep calling. I do not know what to do.
1/13/2006 - Antonio writes:
I purchased John Beck's free and clear program in september of 2005. I was contacted to enter the mentoring program for $4,499.00. I was told a refund would be issued to me if I cancelled the product within three days. Once I received this product I cancelled right away because I was afraid of going through with the program. I signed a refund agreement which stated one to two billing cycles my money would be refunded. January 3rd was the last day for the second billing cycle and i still have not received my money. I have taken further action on this matter and have gone to my attorney and had issued a letter to the company. I also contacted the Attorney General's office of Ohio and am waiting for their reply. I am not saying this is a scam because I am still hoping for my money back, but I definately would not advise anyone to purchase this product. I feel sorry for those of you that have been mislead and wish you all luck in getting your refunds.
1/11/2006 - Tom writes:
I ordered this John Becks Free & Clear in 2003, shortly after receiving it I was called by John Becks marketing department and told without there help with this program I probably would not succeed. Next they tried to get $5000.00 from me to get mentoring. I refused, but then was ask how much I thought I could afford for there help. I declined all help from them. So much for the infomercial stating just buy the package and thats all you need.
1/8/2006 - Sara writes:
I just saw the infomercial for this program and decided to do some internet research on it first before deciding whether or not to buy. While viewing the program itself, however, two things made me skeptical. First, there were only three or four people who were giving their testimonials throughout the whole informercial, and most of the time it was just a redheaded woman. I felt that they should be able to come up with more people to share their testimonials if this is such a successful program. Second, for many of the properties they showed, they mentioned how much it was bought for (say $500) and how much the county assessed it for (say $35,000), YET they did not show how much it was actually RESOLD for! This led me to think that perhaps the property had been bought cheaply but that it was not able to be resold. Otherwise, why wouldn't they should how much it actually sold for? As with any television program, watch it with a critical eye!
12/13/2005 - George writes:
John Beck tried to rip me off!!!Contact Utah Dept. of Consumer Protection and ask to speak to an investigator.They got my money back by forcing them to settle out of court!!!They can be fought and beaten!!!Just don't give up or give in!!!Keep the faith and you can prevail!!!
11/2/2005 - Angela writes:
The John Beck Free and Clear program sales people have grossly misrepresented their coaching program, consulting program, software products, LandBanc website, and commitment to their clients success. After numerous calls to customer service (Mandilynn Moser, Stacy from Client Relations), the coaching hotlines, 24-hour consulting hotlines (Purchase Cashflow Advisory Hotline), and senior coaches hotline (Dave Johnson), we received no response to our complaints and concerns. Here are the numbers we were using: Coaching 866-373-4363 (Eric kept telling us to do something but gave little guidance once we were ready to pull the trigger) Coaching Hotline 888-733-7615 (Chas did not know anything about internet bidding) Customer Service 800-266-5664 (if I ever talked to a person live they were very indifferent and showed no interest in my concerns) JD LeBlanc 800-508-1835 x220 (finally returned our phone call) Dave Johnson 866-373-4363 (never returned a phone call) Advisory Hotline Consultants 877-860-5632 Mbr#206393 (no one was experienced in tax lien or tax deed investing) John Beck Mentoring Institute Mentoring Package was to include: 10 Sessions with experienced Tax Lien/Deed Investing Fundamentals of Real Estate Negotiating & Creative Financing Real Estate Forms & Contracts Discount Mortgage Manual Access to Purchase Cash Flow Website Newsletter Internet Success Summit John Beck Landbanc Tax Vantage Software REIS Software Instant Cash Flow Generator Once we received our package we called customer service as directed and she informed us that our coach would review all the materials and software with us. Most of the information and software is completely irrelevant to Tax Lien/Deed Investing. Our two coaches (Mary Ann and Eric Yates) did not review the software and information with us. They both admitted to not only being unaware of what information we had received, but did not know how to use the software. Chas actually admitted to having no experience in real estate at all, but he felt he did not need experience to be a good coach. Fundamentals of Real Estate discusses mortgage theory and different financing as well as examples forms that cannot be used. They are for example only. However, none of this information or forms are needed for Tax Lien/Tax Deed Investing. Negotiating & Creative Financing is a binder full of amoritization schedules and financing options. Much of the information is repeated in the Fundamentals of Real Estate binder. None of the information is relevant to Tax Lien/Tax Deed Investing. Real Estate Forms & Contracts. There are only three forms on the entire CD!!!! Hardley enough forms to complete a Real Estate Transaction! Discount Mortgage Manual- Another manual with repeated information about mortgages. Discount Mortgages are totally irrelevant to Tax Lien/Tax Deed Investing. Access to Purchase Cash Flow Website- Never received password or code. Newsletter Never received. Internet Success Summit Binder explaining how to use the internet for purchasing assets. Only 4 pages of the entire 200 page binder was reviewed by our coach. Summit was sold as a seminar, not a huge binder to read through by ourselves. John Beck Landbanc A website that is supposed to have deeply discounted land for purchase for clients only. All parcels of land were being sold for not only above market, but well above what he paid to acquire the properties. No properties were ever available and the properties listed had absolutely no description or parcel number so we could research the property. The entire John Beck Program was supposed to teach us how to do due diligence on a property yet they are selling properties without any descriptions, addresses or parcel numbers. They wanted their students to buy in the blind and turn around and sell them on the internet in the blind. Tax Vantage Software- It is not software at all! It is an informercial for The Tax Club! We called the Tax Club and they try to put everyone in a Nevada Corporation without discussing our business needs, business goals, etc. . .Totally unethical group of folks on the sales team of the Tax Club. REIS Software- Investor Suite Software that is very difficult to use or understand. No manual is available and the tutorial is at best inadequate. Our coach was not familiar with the software and we made several phone calls to the Hotline and there was only one individual that knew how to use the software and what the advantages were and he never called us back (attempted to contact him three times). Instant Cash Flow Generator Software both copies do not work. Will not open. CONCERN #1: John Beck claims their coaches are all in the business and have experience doing what they are coaching us to do. I have talked to several coaches who admited they have never purchased property on-line or via tax lien certificates. They were recruited by John Beck's company because they had more clients than they could service and needed help manning the phones and providing coaching. Eric Yates told us he was recently recruited because they had more clients on board then they could service. Chas answered the coaching hotline and when asked questions about the upcoming internet auction he admitted that he had never done an online auction nor had he invested in tax liens and tax deeds. He then went on to say ask me Do you think someone has to have experience doing something to be a coach? I said Yes, I do. Beside what I believe, John Beck promised our coaches had experience Chas then gave me an example of a coach that had no experience doing the actual thing. He asked me if I every heard of Charlie Wiese. I said no. Then he explained how he is a football coach that never played football. I of course was appauled that he was justifying his lack of knowledge and justifying his ability to coach without any first hand knowledge of the internet investing process. CONCERN #2: John Beck sent us a software program that do not work Instant CashFlow Generator. It will not open. The only software program that does work comes with no instructions or coaching REIS. When I asked my coach (Eric Yates) to review the software with us he had never heard of it and didn't use property management. CONCERN #3: John Beck sent us 3 binders full of information that is completely unrelated to investing in tax liens/tax deeds and free and clear properties. When we asked the coach to give us a synopsis of the materials sent, he was not aware of the binders nor was he familiar with the content when we asked questions about the content. CONCERN #4: John Beck coaches instructed us to do business that is both unethical and immoral. Basically, we were instructed to buy pieces of land that are worth nothing and sell them on the internet to stupid people that won't know the difference until they go to try to use the land. CONCERN #5: John Beck sales people (JD LeBlanc)over sell the program by making guarantees they cannot deliver on. They charged us $5800 for services, software and advice that is not readily applicable to investing in tax lien and tax deeds. JD also sold us a lot of material that is totally unrelated to Tax Lien and Tax Deed investing. We did not call about a preforeclosure/FSBO/Property Manager/Mortgage program!!!!!!!!!! Why would one sales person try to sell us the $4300 package and another the $5800 package? Especially a package full of information and materials that are totally unrelated to tax lien and tax deed investing!!!!!!!!!!!!! CONCERN #6: The LANDBANC Website is another scam used to increase the profits of John Beck and his staff. Most of the properties available are supposed to be available at "deep discounted prices" however, they prices on his website are more expensive than the property will sell for on-line. There are numerous examples daily of the prices he charges on his website versus the price he paid and the price one can turn around and sell the property. Our Desired Resolution: Requesting full refund for failure to deliver services and products as promised. We will return all binders and software upon receipt of written confirmation that we will receive our refund and where we need to mail the materials.