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Russ Dalbey - Winning in the Cash Flow Business Complaints
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8/9/2008 - wenzell writes:
I bought the cash flow package in Nov. 2007,for $250.00 and a few weeks later they called me and said they would help me to get at lest five mote deals,all it would cost me was 3300 HUNDERD DOLLARS. I put it on my cc and as of this date Aug. 8 08 I have not done a deal. They still call and all I have to do is give them another $4000.00 The lessons are a lot of BS. I'm retired and now stuck trying to pay for something that I cannot use I'm sorry I didn't see this site before I charged it. But my son told me he was thinking about buying a realestate package, and I asked him from who and he told me Russ Dabely. I told him to stay as far away from anything that Russ have to say or sell. I hope that he is put in gail

8/6/2008 - Anna writes:
I've fallen for a scam! after shelling out 5k (that I don't have) I was led to think, I'd get it back 1o fold in no time. So stupidly, I used my cc. Then, they wanted 5k more for another program, I said no. Now they invite me to San Diego, everythng paid n guarantee at least 1 note deal. Everything, except for the tuition fee of 5k. don't worry, you can put it on your cc. that's when I came here to check. Why didn't I do that sooner? has anyoneone thought of a class action suit if he's such a scammer? can h be stpped? how? ana

8/4/2008 - Spazzica writes:
I watched the infomercial where you can buy it for $39.99 but I wanted to Google it first. I learned that the actual business of being a note finder is real so I decided to go to their website and order the course for $119.00. Price was higher on their website. Fine, I read the materials only to be left with a lot of questions. I then get a call a week later stating I can be a protege and take a 5 months course from Aug 1 to Dec 26. I would received 52 lessons from their online school and would receive 250 note leads. In order to graduate, I would have to close 10 deals. This also included coaching hours. The cost of this that I was quoted was $3500.00. I was caught of guard and shocked. $3500.00!!! What? I ordered the course thinking it had enough information to get me started but since I am sooo new to this, I don't believe it does. Well, needless to say, I am not able to just cough up that kind of money on short notice and will not either. There are books on Amazon.com you can read for less that $119 for those still interested in checking this business out. To me, Russ Dalbey's company is leaning towards bait and switch. Bait me with a packet of info I thought would get me started and then try to switch me to some school program for a lot more and give me the rest of the informaiton I thought I was getting in the first place.

8/4/2008 - Mike writes:
I really appreciate this forum and the warnings it contains, because i was on the verge of purchasing this program but decided i would research it online before i made a 25.99$ payment (which seems to have gone down significantly according to other posts). I have been informed by this, and many other websites confirming that this is, indeed a scam. Thanks for the warning.

8/1/2008 - Jim writes:
I bought this product several years ago. It was a special at $19.95 or something like that. I saw it on TV this AM for $39.95 if you ordered today. I reviewed the program and thought it was a lot of hype for a pretty simple procedure. You don't have to go to the courthouse, in most areas the notes are listed on the county's web site. You also don't have to call more than once for a refund if you purchased with a credit card. Try contacting your credit card company and explaining the situation to them. Hope some of this helps.

7/25/2008 - Krissy writes:
I purchased the product just a couple of weeks ago. My babysitter said she was getting phone calls from a guy who insisted on speaking with me but wouldn't call back in the time frames she kept giving him. Finally, I was home when he called but was trying to put my 9 month old son to sleep. So, I answered the phone to get a number where I could call this mystery person back. It turned out to be someone from the Dalby institute who claimed I was chosen to participate in a special training event. When I tried explaining that I was putting my son down and asked for number where I could call him back he turned into one of the rudest people I have ever spoken to. He basically said that I wasn't taking this seriously, called me a liar and wanted to know if I knew how many excuses he heard every day just like the one I was giving him. At that point, I decided that this company was crap! I can just imagine what they treat customers (or students so they call us) who actually need something if this is how they are to people they are trying to get to buy something. NEVER AGAIN!

7/24/2008 - linda writes:
After ordering the Winning in the Cash Flow Business Manuals for $199 with a 30 day return on May 1 , it arrived on the 15 of May. On the 16 th mentors started calling at all hours of the day to go over the material. Each caller said they could put me on the fast track at making alot of money finding notes faster if I would become a student of the Dalbey institue. I would have an advantage over other note seekers. On May 29 after Matt then Skyler called me at work stating they were taking just 15 prime students into this course, I caved, they took or put $2900 on my credit card. Nothing was said about viewing it for 7 days and get your money back. Your first lesson plans 1-8 are the same things he says in the manual that you already paid $199 for. After reading the 1st lesson plan, you get an email stating for another $800 they can set you up with a website. After reading the 2 3 4 lesson, more emails come through stating that for additional money they can get you leads on notes faster. At this time June 23, I was diagnoised with breast cancer so I was in a bit of shock. Financially this was a blow to me and if I don't work, I do not get paid. My doctor and their support staff were going over my financial responsiblities and I blurted out that the Dalbey Institute just put $2900 on my credit card and how was I going to make payments let alone make payments to live on. My doctor and I called the Dalbey customer service number and got a hold of Phil who was suppose to be my supervisor and then he turned me over to his supervisor by the name of Nick. Nick tells me over the phone that I can still work, go to the closes courthouse and find the notes, I then informed Nick, that the purpose of me in this program was to get out of credit card dedt not be more in dedt. My doctor was listening in on the conversation in her office and was appalled but she had me ask for another higher supervisor in the organization. Nick informed me he was supervising manager and that I and my doctor were to talk to only him. If my doctor wrote a letter stating that I needed all the strenght to beat this, that he would see to it that I would get my money back. She wrote the letter and asked Nick his fax number so that he could get it ASAP. The number he gave us did not exist. My doctor and I called the customer service line and asked again for Nick and we were told he was out for the day. After stating we were faxing a letter, they gave us another number. This fax went through. After several days, I called Nick to see if he had received the letter and he stated he had not. Asked again for the fax number and again it was different. I called several minutes after sending the fax to see if he received it and he would not talk to me. About an hour later Justin calls me at work and says I do not deserve my money back because I read 11 lesson plans. I asked who he was and why was he calling me at work. He informed me he was the supervisor manager at Dalbey. (His voice sure sounds like Nick) I want my money back. My doctor and attorneys have advised me to go to the attorney general of our state. The credit card company will not give me my money back because the 7 day viewing had passed. This is a scam. I want to put all their lesson plans for everyone to see. He's made my life a hell at the moment.

7/18/2008 - Holly writes:
My husband actually purchased this product for me without telling me about it. When i received the product i knew it was bad news but the next day received a call from the company wanting me to invest another 2-5 thousand dollars telling me the more i invested the more i would make. At that point he put me on hold to talk to his supervisor about me becoming part of the team. in that time i looked it up and found this site which really had me locked on my decision to cut all ties with the company. he got back on and i told him that i was not in a financial situation to fork out that much cash when i obviously knew it was a scam. i told him i was not going to do it anymore and wanted to return the whole package and get my $360 dollars back. they then transferred me to customer service who wanted to only refund 200 and have me keep the product package i told her that i just wanted to return everything and get me full refund. she told me how and then said once they get the package i will get my full refund in 2-3 weeks. its amazing how the money comes out in 8 hours but takes so long to go back in. i'm just lucky that i saw this site and realized before i invested more and my 30trial ran out so this way i can at least get my money back.

7/12/2008 - Murphy writes:
I like wise got taken in by russ dalbeys confidence. I now after investing ALOT of money along with all my class mates ( no one has made any money) am working 2 full time jobs to wade my way through the mess ( if you know what i mean ). It is hard to put it into words what he has done to my life. The banks now own me. I would like to think I could still make it in this. But the reality is alot of you have been burned as i have. I suffer intensely on a dayly basis. My current profession is saving me from finanial ruin, but not without days without sleep staying at work. I will weather this, but it will take years of suffering, to survive what russ dalby promised.

7/8/2008 - ginger writes:
I am glad I checked out your site, because I too was going to purchase this program for 97.00. Thank you all for the information I have been taken in by many. It seems the only one getting rich is the person that is selling the program. Maybe his programs works but I can't afford to put out more money to find out. If it is so good, why doesn't he send it to you and collect his money from your first deal? Again thank you helping me spot this.

7/5/2008 - Jamice writes:
Thanks to all of you for the warning as I too was about to purchase the product and decided not to after reading some of the complaints listed. I was ripped off before by a similar get-rich- quick scheme. Never again! I have learned to do my research first.

7/2/2008 - Ken Dippel writes:
I also purchased the Dalby product. Yes, the note selling business is real. The program at Dalbys does not work! Most of what I learned was done on my own. You do not have to buy Dalby's course to get into the note selling business. First, of all the program does not tell you the legal risks of being in the note business and the possibility of you being sued as a note broker. This is especially risky because in many states you have to have a broker's license. Yes, you can be sued and held liable for brokering the sale of a note! So watch what you do! Second, yes it is easy to find notes at the Court house. The problem is finding the people who actually want to sell their note. My experience in this area is the obvious fact people do not want to sell their notes at a discount even if it is a cash offering! To them if they sell their note at a discount they take a loss! I went through explaining to my prosepective note sellers the BS time value of money! It never worked! Third, even after finding a note seller who wanted to sell it was heck trying to find someone or a company to buy the note! The note listing service at Dalby's is BS! What happens there is you just get in touch with another note broker who shops your note around. He then skims off the top leaving you and the note seller with nothing. I stopped shopping notes around via people who were not the actual note buyer. I learned you got to get in touch with a company who directly buys the notes. The company I learned to deal with is []! [] is a direct note buyer! Yes, you can be successful if you find someone who actually wants to sell their note and if you can get a good offer for the note. I found some success and plan on trying to stay in it! I am taking time off because of the down turn in the real estate market. I learned all this on my own! It did not come through a crash course by Dalby's Winning in the Cash Flow Business! I did initially purchase the product. But, after having learned it was all BS I returned it and got a full refund because I used my credit card. They were forced to credit my credit card back! Stay away from Dalby's!

6/26/2008 - Betty J. Burrill writes:
We purchased this so called product in March of 2007 we were very excited about it went out and purchased notebooks downloaded all in formation they sent us on the special website and all the so called lesson plans. We started working very hard on this and even went so far as to go to the County Court house in the summer of 2007. We thought we still had plenty of time and one day we went to the website and quess what it was gone. We tried contacting by phone no answer, we tried by email no response. What really bothers me about this is he's getting away with this. I sincerely hope that someone some day catches up with this jerk. He takes unsuspecting people and really he's stealing their money he needs to be stopped!!!! It's time the United States government stops Thieves and throws them in jail and gives back the money they've stolen. Their is a saying what goes around comes around and he shall get his just. We have not made one red cent from this. We spent more out then was anticipated. I will not divulge the amount we were scammed however if contacted by a reputable newspaper or magazine I will divulge the amount. thak you Betty Burill

6/11/2008 - david sharma writes:
i called because the product looked reasonable. i bought all 4 products for a total of $360. then i tried going to the company's website. guess what they don't have one and they said they were going to try to set up one for me! What a scam! do not buy!

6/9/2008 - Shawn writes:
I saw this course this morning on television, and for the sake of entertainment, I watched part of it. And then I Googled "Winning in the Cash Flow Business" to see how many hits I would find with the word "SCAM" in them. This was the first hit, so again, for the sake of entertainment, I decided to start reading the pages and pages of complaints about the course. As I was reading them, I began to feel sorry for all the people out there who were misled by the television infomercial. But then, as I kept reading, I noticed something ..the vast majority of people who were suckered into buying this course were also suckered into buying other courses in the past. SERIOUSLY?! Have people truly not caught onto this vicious and sinister marketing ploy yet? If you're one of the people with dollar signs in your eyes, dreaming of the riches you'll gain overnight with a mere 40 dollar investment ...good grief - THINK! Stop, put the phone down, and think! If it was really easy to "Find 'em, List 'em, Make money!", then why aren't there more people doing this? Why is Mr. Dalbey marketing his course on television if he's so successful at it? Because his business isn't the cashflow business, it's the mislead people into buying his shit business, just like all the other people out there, like John Beck, who do EXACTLY the same thing! All of those infomercials are meticulously crafted from start to finish to con people into buying their junk. Everything from the wording of the hosts, the fake testimonials from paid actors, and even the order in which it is all presented ..is designed to get you excited ...excited enough to pick up the phone and start paying. ALL of the information that these people sell you can be found for FREE on the internet, and with the added bonus of nobody calling you to con more money out of you. How do I know this? RESEARCH! I would never buy anything off the internet or TV or over the phone without doing some research first! How can you ever truly be aware of what you are buying unless you know the facts FIRST? My research over the years has led me to one single conclusion in regards to the countless programs being sold in the media today - misleading garbage! You will NEVER be able to invest a mere 40 dollars and suddenly be an overnight success! It takes hard work, dedication and the will to succeed. C'mon people, that's common sense! And if you've already been scammed, and just got scammed again...wow. I know times are hard, people are desperate. Hell, so am I. I live alone, make just enough to get by, and would also love an easy out. I'm a lazy bastard and thus I'm not rich. I would like to be, but I certainly don't intend to ever allow myself to be suckered into buying any of the "Make 40,000 dollars in the next month" bullshit courses - I have an understanding that most of you apparently refuse to accept - you have to WORK HARD in order to get rich! Wake up people, time to smell reality!

6/5/2008 - Jonathan writes:
I want to thank you guys for helping me to avoid being scammed again. I recently purchased a similar product from John Beck who is another real estate scammer along with Carlton Sheets. They all start out with that $39.95 product and make every attempt to "upgrade" you with their "advanced training" system. These guys don't make a penny from real estate at all; their money is made through selling you information that you can go to your local court house and learn. We're all feeling the pinch from the economy, but PLEASE do your due diligence before trying any of these real estate programs.

5/31/2008 - Geoff writes:
I'm 18, living in an apartment by myself, making 7.50 an hour, 35 hours a week. I see this infomercial one night to make thousands of dollars in minutes. Unfortunately, I ordered the product THEN decided to check online if it was a scam. Hopefully I can get my money back before I even recieve it in the mail. All of these complaints made me change my mind instantly and I haven't even recieved the package. Thank you for allof the complaints and saving me money.

5/16/2008 - catherine writes:
well i don't know if it works but please if anyone ever reads this let me know if this winning ion the cash flow actaully works for them

5/15/2008 - Akisa writes:
This was one of the most biggest mistakes I have ever made in my life! I am a single mom of three, and to take this chance that I did to try to give my childen a better way of living has back fired in my face! This man should be arrested!! The key to his cellar should be thrown away and never to be found again, like my money and all of the other people he has ripped off! Gone!!!

5/14/2008 - Troy writes:
I too fell for this "program" after watching an infomercial at 4am. I also fell for the website upgrade. After reviewing all the info and turning down the opportunity to be a "protege" for $2k, $6k, or $10k I'm out $286! I should have researched this outfit--$286 dollar learning experience.

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